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Tuesday, August 31, 2010

Masoli Sitting a year at Ole Miss

The Associated Press is reporting that the NCAA has decided former Oregon Ducks quarterback Jeremaiah Masoli will ineligible for the 2010 football season. This news is a major hit to the hype surrounding Houston Nutt and upcoming season for the Rebels. While Ole Miss stood little challenge to Alabama for the SEC West title, the season outlook for LSU and Arkansas is suddenly on the up. On January 1 of 2010, Masoli was preparing to play Ohio State in the Rose Bowl following an unbelievably successful season for the Ducks. Following the dismal in-game and post-game showing by the Ducks versus Boise State in their season opener, Masoli and outstanding freshman running back LaMichael James lead Oregon to a 10-1 finish and a surprise Pac-10 title. Since the Rose Bowl in January, Masoli has committed felony robbery and been cited for marijuana possession, earning himself a year long suspension for his senior year. Masoli then decided to take his talents to South Beach try and find any team/coach willing to give him a change. A sad end to someone who could have made Oregon a serious contender this year. Without Masoli and starting an inexperienced quarterbak the Ducks are still ranked in the top-15 and generally considered the favorite out West. I would argue Oregon would be a top-5 team with Masoli this year. Instead, he is riding the bench for the bottom dweller in the SEC West. We are not talking about a kid here. Masoli is a grown man who threw away a very promising football season and career.


*Editorial Note:  Within 48 hours of their ruling, the NCAA overturned Masoli's eligibility ruling following an appeal by Ole Miss.  The overruling is very curious to Jock Talk given the original reasoning.  The NCAA ruled that while Masoli had entered a graduate program at Ole Miss not available at the University or Oregon, he had been suspended for the entire season with the Ducks and the rule was in place to promote higher education, not fleeing suspensions.  We are not sure which part of their ruling changed after they slept on it, but Ole Miss has moved up from guarantee lock to land at the bottom of the SEC to guarantee lock to finish in the middle of the SEC pack.  GO REBELS

Douchiest Schools Part II


Douchiest Schools Part II
Why I hate Missouri

Never in my history of tailgating have I ever experienced so much hostility, animosity and general doucheness as when I visited the University of Missouri in Columbia in the fall of 2008. At that time they were ranked number 3 in the country had been on the regional cover of Sports Illustrated, Chase Daniels was a front runner for the Heisman and the team was just coming off a huge 52-17 win at Nebraska.  Oh and not to mention at this time period the team had yet to go three and out on offense… let me repeat that.  In five games the tigers had yet to go three and out !  Well old Columbia was drinking the gold and black cool-aid and this cool-aid not only made their fans arrogant but also d!#$’s.  Here are some examples of my experience.  I step out of the car wearing orange and black only to receive a barrage of half full beer cans being thrown towards our group’s direction.  In a prominent sports bar I had a drunk Missouri fan come 2 inches from my face and scream at me.  An plethora of four lettered words screamed at our direction all day long and constant chants, “OSU sucks, OSU sucks!”.  Oh yeah and this was all before we beat them 28 to 23 at home.  Sweetest win I have ever experienced…aww let me revel in it…give me a second…yeah that felt good, also I would have accepted these attacks post game but pregame?  You shouldn’t be d-bags for people that travel to games, those are typically the more well informed fans who have some extra money and can actually talk football.    Listen I have traveled a lot of places, UT, A&M, Baylor, etc. but I have never been treated even a tenth of as bad as I was treated at Missouri.   On a side note A&M fans may be the nicest in the world! Anyone who walks up to you and offers you beer and brownies when their team is down two touchdowns is a saint in my book. 
Another reason M-I-Z-Z-O-U sucks has to do with this recent conference shake up. So here’s the story as I understand it, the Big Ten has been looking to expand for a while in order so that it could have a playoff and make some more $$$. Somehow these expansion rumors swilled out of control and a rumored 16 team super Big Ten conference took flight.  Well without ever being invited Missouri accepted its imaginary big ten spot bragged about its newfound revenue and then started insulting the Big Twelve. Missouri governor Jay Nixon sparked quite a bit of controversy when he continued to vouch for Mizzou's membership in the Big Ten. He then enraged Big 12 officials when he took a shot at the academic prestige of Texas Tech and Oklahoma State.  It became absolutely hilarious though when the big ten came out and announced its plans were only to expand by one, offered that bid to Nebraska and Missouri was for a short time was on the outside looking in at what would soon be a super conference known as the pac-16.  Now Texas decided to save the Big Twelve(which I think was a mistake). So for now Missouri has a home but I feel this may change once the realigned contract is up.   Mizzou you’ll always be a mediocre football team who may have a couple of decent years (im a OSU guy I’ve learned to live with it).  You got a great Journalism and Broadcasting school but honestly everyone in the big twelve has at least one exceptional college so don’t pretend your Cornell.  Just realize your middle of the road, stop being a#% holes and hopefully you learned a valuable lesson this summer, don’t piss off the Big Twelve aka The  University of Texas because 4 years from now you’ll want a conference and I don’t think the Big East is what you had in mind.

Saturday, August 28, 2010

Douchiest Schools

This week, Crum and Kok will rank their favorite, and least favorite Schools. These rankings could not be more arbitrary. Although generally based on the athletic credentials and personalities of the schools past, other factors may be involved.

Kok's bottom 3
3. USC
This pick is purely envy based.  Prior to their recent misfortune, USC was a college sports fans dream.  Hot chicks.  Superstars.  LA.  Those have the make up for a very good party academic institution.  Throw in some agents buying people clothes and cars, your proximity to several professional franchises (something few college cities can offer), and I'm super jealous.  During Pete Carroll's tenure Will Freaking Ferrell would come to speak before games.  You know gets the players for the Arkansas Razorbacks ready to play?  Bubba Hog.


2. Notre Dame
Notre Dame has barely been relevant in any sporting sense in the last 20 years. They came close once, but Reggie "Erased from the records" Bush pushed them back into the most over hyped, over covered program there is. The best thing to come out of that program since my birth was "Rudy" and Brady Quinn's sister. While every other school is fighting for position in a top conference, the Domers remain too good for a conference. Also, people call them the "Domers." Is there a worse college team nickname?  The Ohio State University are named after the Buckeye, a kind of chestnut.  That leads to a pretty stupid looking mascot, but Stanford has a tree and South Carolina has a chicken on steroids.  There are some rather uninspiring mascots out there, but the domer?  At your own risk, feel free to read Urban Dictionary's possible alternative definitions for a "domer."  Just to recap, our first two teams on this list are the Trojans and Domers.  And did I mention it was a Catholic school. When you go to Notre Dame, you pay a crap-load and are forced to go to mass. How is that in any way a pleasant college experience.



1. Kentucky
There are times in a long-tenured coaches career where he needs to move on. There are also times when a successful coach and icon is thrown to the curb by powerful boosters, spoiled by success. Bobby Bowden reached the point in his career where he needed to move on 5 years ago. In his first 22 years in the ACC Bowden teams never lost more than 2 conference games. Since 2005 they have lost at least 3 every year. Could you pencil in Bowden teams for 7 wins a year? Sure, but who the heck wants a perennial 7 game winner? Bowden overstayed his welcome in the ACC, but several other coaches were wrongly pushed out of their jobs. Phillip Fulmer won 10 games in 4 of his last 8 years at Tennessee. In his final season the Vols won only 5 games, the second time in his SEC career he failed to win at least 8. Despite the 4 10-win seasons, the Vols hadn't won a championship game in a decade and he was chased from the head coaching position.  Based on how far they have fallen in less than 2 years since his departure, do you think the boosters in Knoxville wish they had Fulmer at the helm this season? Lloyd Carr's worst in-conference record while at Michigan was 5-3. Like Fulmer, he chased out of town following a decade long championship drought despite never having a losing season. He won 9 games, the Capital One Bowl, and finished in the top 20 in both polls his final season at Michigan. Rich Rodriguez has won 8 games total in 2 seasons while supporting a winning percentage 4 times lower than Carr's career at Michigan and having never sniffed a bowl game. Oh, and they are currently under investigation for several minor and major rules violations committed under Rodriguez. But Kentucky tops this list because unlike other schools, they have rebounded from chasing an icon from their basketball gyms. Tubby Smith took over a program fresh off a championship and was following the legendary Rick Pitino. In a decade with the team, Smith won a national championship, at least 22 games a year, and never had a losing record in the SEC. Tubby was chased all the way to Minnesota, where he took over a 9-win team and has preceded to win 20 games in each of his 3 season there. Tubby reached the NCAA tournament in every one of the seasons he coached the Wildcats. His replacement, Billy Gillispie, failed to reach the tournament in his second season and was fired. At this point in our story, Kentucky did something drastic to avoid the fates of the Tennessee and Michigan Football programs. They sold out and hired the college coach I hate more than any man on this earth. Coach John Calipari. Coach Cal has left two schools under NCAA penalty including having NCAA Final Four banners being revoked. The worst part? He is a proven winner. He instantly turned Kentucky basketball around. Kentucky is the douchiest school in sports because they are only good at one, and its basketball. The only thing University or Kentucky students had to look forward too for the first decade of this century was Tubby and Ashley Judd. I hate that nothing has stuck to Coach Cal, but that UMass never recovered. I hate that he doesn't care about free throw shooting. I hate that he recruits thugs and one hit wonders. I hope Kentucky reaches the Final 4 every year for the next 5 years buy never wins a championship. I hope the star point guard he brings in each year misses a free throw and loses them a title. And after all that anguish to the Kentucky boosters, who fill Rupp Arena with those Final Four Banners, I hope we find out Coach Cal was pulling some illegal strings the whole time so we can pull those banners down. Calipari can coach young point guards. That is a proven fact. Wall, Rose, and Evans will be studs for years, but I hate John Calipari.  The Izzo's, Coach K's, and Roy Williams' of the world may not restock as quick, but their Banners will hang forever.  They recruit guys who stay long enough to have impactful careers.  Coach Cal will never retire a number.  No one will stay long enough to warrant a jersey being retired.  And after all those Banners he wins and taken back by the NCAA Rupp Arena will have nothing to hang.  I can't wait til this happens.

 I hate you, John.

Vid of the week

During the course of football game there almost certainly are a handful of plays in which any football simpleton can see that things were not executed properly. An incorrect rout run, a botched handoff or a wrong signal called are perfect examples of these mistakes. Yet the following play is so poorly executed and so fundamentally stupid it would make even the sweetest grandma in the stands audibly say, “What the f^&* was that?” Enjoy!

Doug Gottlieb gets it from Sportsnation



For those of you who are unaware, ESPN college basketball analyst Doug Gottlieb originally enrolled with the Notre Dame Fighting Irish following an impressive high school career in Orange County.  During his freshman year, he ran into a little trouble with the law, and by a little trouble I mean misdemeanor fraud.  Doug got into the habit of using his roommates credit cards and eventually racked up $900 worth of purchases, unfortunately his roommate was unaware of these facts.

Over a decade later, during a Gottlieb chat for ESPN a fan decided to have a little fun.  This transcript is no longer available from the ESPN archives.

Jables (NY): Has anyone ever told you that you look like Eddie from “The Munsters”?
Doug Gottlieb: (4:03 PM ET ) Yes, as a kid, and yet I am still on TV…
Mike Indiana: How did your mediocre basketball career prepare you for a mediocre broadcasting career?
Doug Gottlieb: (4:04 PM ET ) So your mediocre life can prepare you for a mediocre afterlife…and by the way, which one of us works for ESPN…
hey and next time…when I you say 30 minutes or less….get here on time with my pizza.
John (Notre Dame): Doug, I lost my credit card, where were you last night?
SportsNation Doug Gottlieb: (4:27 PM ET ) Ask your mom.
Johns Mom (Notre Dame): GOTTLIEB I KNOW YOU STOLE MY SON’S CREDIT CARD!
SportsNation Doug Gottlieb: (4:34 PM ET ) Ten years ago I made a mistake…and payed for it…18 years ago YOU WERE your parents mistake and they are still paying for it.

Anyone feel like calling his radio show?

Friday, August 27, 2010

A$$ Whooping of the Week

*one of the many weekly posts that can be found on the blog, the A$$ Whooping of the week will recap a Bobby Boucher inspired beat down.  Whether its a Heisman campaign going into the tank after week 12 or a Appalachian State like upset, all beat downs will be considered.  Without further ado, Jock Talk's first A$$ Whooping...



We are in the last week of August, College Football hasn't even begun yet, but the Oregon State program received an A$$ Whooping earlier this week when red shirt offensive lineman Tyler Patrick Thomas was kicked off the team following his arrest.  The charges?  Thomas got drunk, then got naked, then got into his neighbors house.  When police arrived, Thomas wasn't quite ready to leave on his own.  He got into a 3-point stance and charged the officers.  The officers then tasered the charging 19 year old.  Thomas has been kicked off the team.  According to Beaver coach Mike Riley, this was the "icing on the cake."  Thomas has been charged with criminal trespassing, resisting arrest, and criminal mischief. 

Best Pre-Season top 25 Poll

ESPN U Fan Poll
1.Alabama
2Ohio State
3Boise State
4Texas
5Florida
6Oklahoma
7TCU
8Nebraska
9Virginia Tech
10Iowa
11Oregon
12Wisconsin
13Miami (FL)
14Pittsburgh
15Penn State
16Arkansas
17Georgia Tech
18USC
19LSU
20Florida State
21North Carolina
22Georgia
23Auburn
24West Virginia
25Oregon State

Worst preseason top 25

Phil Steele's top 25

1. Oklahoma Sooners
2. Ohio State Buckeyes
3. Alabama Crimson Tide
4. Texas Christian Horned Frogs
5. Nebraska Cornhuskers
6. Boise State Broncos
7. Florida Gators
8. USC Trojans
9. Miami (FL) Hurricanes
10. Oregon Ducks
11. Texas Longhorns
12. North Carolina Tar Heels
13. Virginia Tech Hokies
14. Iowa Hawkeyes
15. Auburn Tigers
16. Notre Dame Fighting Irish
17. Arkansas Razorbacks
18. Penn State Nittany Lions
19. Georgia Bulldogs
20. Florida State Seminoles
21. South Carolina Gamecocks
22. West Virginia Mountaineers
23. Wisconsin Badgers
24. Houston Cougars
25. Arizona Wildcats